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 Post subject: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:37 pm 
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Still gotta shorten some cables after fine tuning the handlebar/riser, but here's mah new baby... XL frame Xstream 2013, with XL Hoagie seat... custom all-white...

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:38 pm 
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'Tis schweet, indeed... I may like it even better with the Spinergy wheels!

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Weight about 27 pounds, without bag -- XL Frame has wheelbase right at 6', and the XL Hoagie seat fits my torso MUCH better.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:08 pm 
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Great looking in white Paul, and I bet the fit will net you some speed. What was the weight of the other Xstream? Please keep us posted.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:05 pm 
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The white powder coating gives the illusion that the tubing is huge. Did you get in a ride before the cold front came through? Very interested as to the comfort of the XL seat.
Very nice looking ride!

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:08 pm 
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FlyingLaZBoy wrote:

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Looks a little close. I use these on my XS. Tektro mini-V's with a very severely curved metal thingy. (whatever the deuce it is called)

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:52 am 
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That closeness is partially perception -- The higher BB has eliminated the crankarm hitting the brake arm -- but you've got to bend the brake cable housing a bit to keep it out of the way in turns. No problemo...

I DID get some riding in before the cold front came through -- While my previous Xstream aerodynamics were very good, this bike is an improvement. This is partially due to the better-fitting seat that allows me to eliminate the extra foam padding that had me raised up a bit, but also due to the higher BB... I'm essentially recined a bit more than before, which will take some ride time to get the neck used to. It's not noticeable (neck muscles) on short rides so far, but could come into play on longer rides until I get used to it. It's definitely noticeable into today's headwinds!

I haven't determined the front/rear weighting determination yet, but that was one reason I went with the XL frame -- to get a bit more 'forward'. Measuring from the rear axle to the idler, it's ~1-1/4" longer, and from idler to center of BB it's 2" longer.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
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Rat Rider wrote:
Looks a little close. I use these on my XS. Tektro mini-V's with a very severely curved metal thingy. (whatever the deuce it is called)

The thingy is called the noodle on V-brakes. When I had a V3 the crankarm was hitting the top of the brake arm. It had standard Tektro V-brakes. I switched to a Tektro BX20 BMX brake (pictured below). It uses a roller instead of a noodle and has lower profile arms that curve inward. It did eliminate the crankarm hitting the brake arm, but was still close. Unfortunately Tektro no longer makes the BX20. I was lucky enough to have a couple in my parts stock. Seems that the higher BB XS has remedied the issue. On the older XS and V3 it seems like it would be better just to use a disc in front.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
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iambent wrote:
On the older XS and V3 it seems like it would be better just to use a disc in front.


Which is exactly what I did on my XS26 to replace the V-brake. The "road" style brake wasn't a problem, when installed on the 'road' fork for 650 wheels...

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
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FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
iambent wrote:
On the older XS and V3 it seems like it would be better just to use a disc in front.


Which is exactly what I did on my XS26 to replace the V-brake. The "road" style brake wasn't a problem, when installed on the 'road' fork for 650 wheels...
My V3 came with a 650 wheel and caliper brake and there was not hitting the crank arm issue. When I installed a 20" fork with V-brake bosses that is when I had the issue of the crank arm hitting the brake arm. I was using 170 mm cranks. If I would have been using short cranks it would not have hit, but I am not a short crank guy.

Below is a photo of the V3 with 20" fork and Tektro BX20 brake. It is kind of hard to see brake since it blends in with the aluminum fork.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:56 am 
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I looked long and hard for a brake like that BX-20, before going to the disc setup. Wish they still made them, but oh, well....

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
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Disc seem to be the way to go on these bikes that have issues with front V-brakes. Especially now that the lighter weight 140 mm road discs are becoming more popular. The discs make it much easier to switch between 406 and 451, or between 559 and 650.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:43 am 
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Couple more details on the XL Xstream --

Front/rear weighting distribution with me on the bike is basically 70/30, which is roughly similar to my old StratusXP XL frame. By comparison, the original prototype machine I had back in 2008 was ~6-7" shorter in length, and the ratio was roughly 78/22... positioning myself a bit further forward was one of the reasons I went with the XL frame.

Also, it is a very comfortable machine for spin classes... :lol: On a 'dare,' I took it to a local cycling center and hooked it up to their trainer (with a steel skewer), and did a 90-minute 'tempo ride through the Pyrenees'. It's a bit weird not having an aero advantage over your fellow DF riders... but my butt still didn't hurt!!! Here's a video clip with some intentional goofiness...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67-eFNFp ... e=youtu.be

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:45 pm 
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Absolutely beautiful Ghost Bike Paul. LOVE the white!!!
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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:00 am 
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The white with the "sparkle" metal flake is fun, especially when the sun brings it out. A riding buddy of mine jokingly (enviously) referred to it as my 'Michael Jackson Paint Job'... :D

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2011 Seavo tandem, lime green -- The "Margarita Machine"
2010 Xstream26 -- with 1.75" tires and SM seat


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:17 pm 
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FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
The white with the "sparkle" metal flake is fun, especially when the sun brings it out. A riding buddy of mine jokingly (enviously) referred to it as my 'Michael Jackson Paint Job'... :D


Real men don't sparkle... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
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Hi All
I just finisheed building up an XStream frameset. The front brake problem was stubborn but eventually yielded. I used Avid 7 rim brakes and levers. They were almost enough on their own to clear the [img][img][img][/img][/img][/img]pedals, but not quite. I substituted Kool Stop low profile pads, for more brake arm clearance and better braking to boot. Finally, I ran the cable through a Travel Agent. Now I can't induce brake/crank interference, and the red brake pads add a splash of color to that charcoal frame. As soon as I can figure out how to post a picture heree I'll share it.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:47 am 
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Travel Agent, eh? Nice, I'll check it out...

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:47 am 
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Wow Paul! you really LOVE your Xstreams!!! Isn't this your 3rd one?

I love mine too, I have a half orange, half green green one covered with sparkles I had RANS custom paint for me. Awesome bike!
Andy in OKC. :)


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 XstreamXL
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Andy wrote:
Wow Paul! you really LOVE your Xstreams!!! Isn't this your 3rd one?

I love mine too, I have a half orange, half green green one covered with sparkles I had RANS custom paint for me. Awesome bike!
Andy in OKC. :)



So where's the pics???? :D

I do, indeed, love this bike... and yes, if you count riding the prototype for 6-8 months, this is my third "version" Xstream...

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2011 Seavo tandem, lime green -- The "Margarita Machine"
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:10 pm 
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One more Xstream-related note -- the Jalco 650 wheels mine came with have proven to be basically bombproof so far, even with my 220ish pounds plus bag plus gear... I'm running a Conti Gatorskin on the front, and a Terry Tellus 28mm on the back, both at 110 psi.

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2011 Seavo tandem, lime green -- The "Margarita Machine"
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 Post Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:20 pm 
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Nice Xstream Paul... soooo... jealous... :lol: She looks fast just setting there.


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